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OP session, Feb 12, 1985 (2005)
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joef
Wed Feb 16 2005, 03:48AM


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The faithful Roseburg yard goat for this session ...


Yahoo list photo link: http://siskiyou.railfan.net/operations/assets/opsFeb/OpsFeb-00159_RJ.jpg

Here's a closeup shot of Jeff Shultz's Willamette and Pacific loco we pressed into service at the last minute as the yard switcher for Roseburg when my Proto2000 GP9 conked out.

Although a bit too early for my 1980s era Siskiyou Line, I could not resist this sweet looking little loco since Jeff brought it by for a test run on the layout. It earned it's keep tonight helping switch Roseburg yard, even if it is a "teleport from the future" loco.

I hope you enjoyed this photo report of the op session from the Roseburg Yardmaster's perspective.

The layout ran pretty well during the session and everyone seemed to have a great time! Let me know what you think of these reports and if you like the idea of looking at an op session through the eyes of various operating positions.

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JeffShultz
Wed Feb 16 2005, 03:21PM

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Joe,

Excellent photo of the star of my layout!

For anyone who might be interested, this unit is an Atlas GP38 that started life out detailed for the Buffalo & Pittsburgh, a shortline owned by the Genesee & Wyoming RR, as is the WPRR (now Portland & Western RR). Basically all I did was use some MicroSol to loosen up the paint for the numbers and logos I wanted to remove, and then applied the decals from the Microscale Willamette & Pacific Locomotive decal set.

This is a bit of a fantasy locomotive however - the WPRR locomotive it represents is actually a GP39-2, and I have no real desire to modify it all that extensively.

I received the model as a birthday present last year, and up until last week it was running under DC. I got a cheap Prodigy DCC system off of EBay and switched over "to the dark side" as some would say, last week. I brought the locomotive up to the Op Session to see if I could customize some of the programming, as well as check some of the default settings. Happily we were able to increase it from the default 14 speed steps to 28 (the max the Prodigy will handle) which also had the effect of toning down the momentum that was in the unit. It's running very smoothly on my home layout. It's the only DCC equipped locomotive I have currently. I'm gearing up for an eventual challenge in putting DCC into my Spectrum GP30.

It was pure luck (I won't say good or bad) that the GP9 went down at the start of the ops session. I'm glad that it was there when it was needed.

Jeff Shultz
Willamette & Pacific - Oregon Electric Branch
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joef
Thu Feb 17 2005, 12:25AM


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Those are my manual turnout throws. For more info, see:

http://mymemoirs.net/model-trains/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=57

Or see:

http://mymemoirs.net/model-trains/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=141#141

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alco-holic
Sat Feb 19 2005, 01:52PM

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Joe,
I love the photos of the op session. Now I am really chomping at the bit to get down there in april. The new tunnel motor looks great. Very interesting comment on the pearl drops tooth polish, that crew will have the whitest teeth in town(grin). Sorry that the gp-9 died, but that sure is a good looking unit that Jeff has. I also like the Seagull West photos. I never thought that that unit could look so good.
See you in April.
John.
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RearBrakeman
Tue Feb 22 2005, 12:39AM
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Jeff,
That is a right smart looking geep you've got there. I especially like the WP decals. I've seen some of the WP engines when my wife and I go to her folks place in Depoe Bay but I don't recall that livery. Do they have an assortment of different painted units or is that your choice of color? Will it be there in the April session? I plan on being there for that run and it would be nice to see it in person, so to speak. Dale

Come for a ride on the Sumpter Valley Railway near Baker and I'll see you there. Dale T.
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JeffShultz
Tue Feb 22 2005, 09:04AM

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Thank you - yes, that's a typical example of the livery on a Genesse & Wyoming owned railroad. Each railroad has it's own tweaks (plow color, step colors, sideframe color) and in fact the W&P/P&W has a couple of variations of that themselves.

Someone on another group has commented that you couldn't be a railfan in this area if you were colorblind. Currently on the P&W (which the Willamette & Pacific morphed into) you have the Orange & Black G&W-style locomotives in three separate roadnames (W&P, P&W, StL&A), StL&A (St. Lawrance & Atlantic) GP40s in a yellow & black scheme, a Utah Railroad GP38-2 (fmly GP35) in it's grey and red scheme, several SD9's in SP bloody nose (and one in Black Widow), an SD7 in what is possibly the worst patch job of an SP paint job ever, and two or three ex-Pittsburgh & Shawmutt switchers in a red, white & blue bicentennial job. Oh - and about a third of the GP39-2s are still in an ATSF patch paint job as well.

Now the rumor is that the P&W is getting 4 SD45s, one of which is still in SP paint.

The worst patch job (what's with the white radiators?):

For Yahoo: http://www.shultzinfosystems.com/gallery/albums/Locomotives/DSCF1369.sized.jpg

Jeff Shultz
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RearBrakeman
Tue Feb 22 2005, 02:01PM
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Jeff,
I'd have to agree, that is one messed up 'paint' scheme on that old unit. And it doesn't appear to be going away from the yard or it's home grounds any time soon with that small fuel tank either. Thanks for the information. I'm sure that the units we were seeing in our travels through the Tigard/King City route to the coast was more likely the P & W than the W & P but still you know it is one 'family' by the railroad logo. Seems like that company has taken some pride in it's choice of colors and logo design. That seems to be a signature of smaller branch roads, don't you think? Thanks again and we'll talk later. Dale

Come for a ride on the Sumpter Valley Railway near Baker and I'll see you there. Dale T.
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RearBrakeman
Tue Feb 22 2005, 02:41PM
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Joe,
Just reviewed the latest ops session (for the umteenth time, or at least three times) and really enjoyed the perspective viewpoint of the Roseburg yardmaster. It does, as you might expect, bring up a rash of other questions about the individual operating positions. I need to sort those out and maybe ask later, unless later is in April when I'm there. The one perspective I'm really looking forward seeing in an op session is the Roseburg Forest Products industry. You've talked so much about it and the number of cars it handles that it would be interesting to see how a crew handles it during a session. Anyway, this session was great to see. By the way, did you see the post I submitted refering to a hostler position in Roseburg yard? What do you think about that idea? Just waiting patiently for the next one. Dale

Come for a ride on the Sumpter Valley Railway near Baker and I'll see you there. Dale T.
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joef
Tue Feb 22 2005, 03:15PM


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Hmm, the hostler position, you ask.

So far there has not been a real need for that kind of position. In fact, I'd add that responsibility to the road crew.

If you pick up your train in Roseburg, go get your own power.

If you drop off your train in Roseburg, you put your power away.

That way, the yardmaster can stay focused on his work.

There's just not enough trains into and out of Roseburg to make that into a full-time position. If we did have such a position, you would spend a lot of time sitting on your hands. That's why I think it ought to be a road-crew responsibility -- and that's more consistent with the philosophy of 1980s SP railroading in Oregon anyhow. Maybe in Roseburg of the 1940s, but not the 1980s.

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RearBrakeman
Tue Feb 22 2005, 07:03PM
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Hi Joe,
Hey, I understand what you're saying. It was just an idea. I didn't think about what the hostler would do in between trains arriving and departing so what you say makes better sense. Later, Dale

Come for a ride on the Sumpter Valley Railway near Baker and I'll see you there. Dale T.
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