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| speedbird |
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 Registered Member #733 Joined: Thu Nov 01 2007, 03:20PMPosts: 66 | Hi I belive my project will be more prototype than freelance than first expected. I've just ordered two books: 1. The Southern Pacific Railroad 2. The Siskiyou Line - Documentary: Adventure in Railroading (Southern Pacific) I hope these books have som good pictures as well. (Maybe i can have a vacation with my wife over there sometime...  )My current plan are Roseburg to Eugene, no branch line, but i am still tweaking my layoutdesign. I do not wanna pass the same location twice (except if it was across the siskiyou). And i would like to have a hidden staging after Roseburg and before Eugene. Looping is not required. It is fun to plan a new layout, but also hard work.  I've just bought Atheran RTR GP40X #7230 and RTR SD40T-2 #8277 (Priced 84$ each) so i can have something to play with, and since i am new to DCC i can start testing the DecoderPro etc etc. Will use DigiTrax. The light's that are used to prevent shorts on the Siskiyou layout. What kind of light are that? I will wire my system the same way and have 2 power district. But i will wait with the electric schematic's until the trackplan is more or less finished. Have a nice day. -=Speedbird=- | ||
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| KnuT |
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 Registered Member #27 Joined: Thu Dec 09 2004, 11:00AMLocation: Halden, Norway Posts: 208 | Speedbird, You can find bulbs at Biltema, item number 35-15325 - 12V/25W is similar to the 1156 Bulbs Joe uses. You might want to finetune this - se Marcus Amman on Using the 1156 as a short management. regards KnuT see my blog on The Peavine and Santa Fe: | ||
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| speedbird |
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| Registered Member #733 Joined: Thu Nov 01 2007, 03:20PMPosts: 66 | Hi Thanks knut. A really good link you have there. Everytime i am home from job i get diffrent stuff i'll need for my layout later. So i'll take 20 next time i am at Biltema  Have you tried DecoderPro with Digitrax? -=Speedbird=- | ||
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| KnuT |
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| Registered Member #27 Joined: Thu Dec 09 2004, 11:00AMLocation: Halden, Norway Posts: 208 | I bought a LocoBuffer some weeks ago, but have not tested it yet. It is on my "to do list". But a friend of mine has brought his LocoBuffer over, so we have tested DecoderPro on my layout too. The LocoBuffer also has some good tools for Digitrax. I think Charlie has tested this out on his layout. regards KnuT see my blog on The Peavine and Santa Fe: | ||
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| speedbird |
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| Registered Member #733 Joined: Thu Nov 01 2007, 03:20PMPosts: 66 | Hi -- KnuT: I've got some info from Digitrax now. They tell me they gonna sell the radio version mid summer 2008 in europe -- I am now finished with my final drawings of my second garage and got an aprovel to build it so now the wall lengths are fixed. I have put alot of work into having the ailes wide enough and not go below 30" radius. I have then created this plan based on Charlie C. version. Roseburg - Eugene. No branchline. Hidden Staging north of Eugene (Not seen, but it is in the area with the helix). I didn't wanna have the line pass the same location more than once. That is why i have a double deck and a hidden helix. I found this solution to be acceptable. I can make the radius in the helix what i like. no limits in that room.  A lot of info in that plan. Please note that i have not fine-tuned the mainline or where it will climb and decend for scenery (Like rice hill). I am still waiting for some books before i will choose town loactions. upper wall benchwork is a double deck and some on the upper right wall before the track goes hidden below Eugene. Mushroom width: 18.5" Mushroom Roseburg width : 26" -=Speedbird=- [ Edited Tue Nov 27 2007, 03:30PM ] | ||
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| bear creek |
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   Registered Member #305 Joined: Wed Feb 01 2006, 01:57PMLocation: Portland, OR Posts: 342 | Hey Speedbird, I can see you've been thinking alot about this. I have some questions about staging though. Eugene on the prototype is a major place and as such ought to have staging attached to it representing the SP mainline north and east. Roseberg probably also needs to have staging attached so there is a place for the train cars to go and to come from there. Have you considered adding a track around the top of the helix providing a continuous run on the upper deck for when you just feel like watching trains run? Perhaps Roseberg could be changed to Coos Bay which is at the end of a branch so lower deck staging would not be needed? Regards, C. Bigwig Bear Creek & South Jackson Railway Co. http://www.bcsjrr.com | ||
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| speedbird |
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| Registered Member #733 Joined: Thu Nov 01 2007, 03:20PMPosts: 66 | Hi You are absolutley correct. I find this plan to be ok, but i am missing staging after roseburg. I tried to put roseburg after the main entrance door so i could have a double deck staging in the other room but i could not figure out a good trackplan for this  After doing som research, a lowerdeck duck-under is not ok. Since both yards need staging after/before, it can not bee on the mushroom. If i did i would seperate the two sections Lower/Upper area.About the branchline. I have to admit.. ehh i was so focused about roseburg - Eugene that i forgott to evaluate other posibilities with only one staging.. ehh. I feel i do not need continues running so this will be implementet if possible but i will not put it as an requirement. On this plan it is possible. Charlie: I have been looking at your pictures. My jaw dropped to the floor!! Fantastic work. -=Speedbird=- | ||
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| speedbird |
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| Registered Member #733 Joined: Thu Nov 01 2007, 03:20PMPosts: 66 | Hi I have made another version again  Pos: This one is very close to what to what i wan't. I have two Main Yards with enough width and length. I have hidden staging for each yards in the same room. Helix hidden in the same room. (Helix and hidden staging room will be isolated with it's own access door at the bottom left wall, and also duck-under access for quick access to helix). Also made a view to the helix. (Btw: The second floor in this building with stair access froom the staging room will be a lounge ).Ailes width are ok to very ok. No double deck, only mushroom and single deck. Drawbacks (but i belive I can accept this): 1. 137cm high duck under. 2. When the train enters the helix at 150cm it will enter the upper deck at 165cm where the engineere has to walk a distance to get to the place where the train arrives the upper der. When reading the plan, start at the lower deck main yard.  If this plan is ok, it is time for me to plan the operations  Have a nice day. -=Speedbird=- [ Edited Fri Nov 30 2007, 04:47AM ] | ||
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| JeffShultz |
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 Registered Member #6 Joined: Wed Dec 08 2004, 09:30PMLocation: Stayton, OR Posts: 582 | I'd think it was time to plan sidings, spurs, industry and interchange... which will help drive operations (with some feedback the other way of course. Jeff Shultz Willamette & Pacific - Oregon Electric Branch W&P RR Photo Gallery | ||
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| bear creek |
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| Registered Member #305 Joined: Wed Feb 01 2006, 01:57PMLocation: Portland, OR Posts: 342 | Two quick questions speedbird. 1) The town adjacent to the duck under leading to the raised floor area is at 137cm. The upper deck above it is at 175cm. The distance between them is 38cm or 15+". Allowing for a minimum deck thickness of 3" (7cm?) that leaves you a VERY minimum clearance above this town. I'd suggest that with a deck depth of 18" at the lower deck town that you'll want more overhead clearance there. At the very least get some pieces of cardboard and mock this up before building to make sure its acceptable to you. You should also check to see if the height of the duckunder from the lower floor to the stairs/ramp to the upper floor is acceptible - especially when descending... 2) You have two yards drawn in the plan. Might I suggest that for the limited number of operators you were talking about that this will be a lot of extra construction (time and cost for track/turnouts/switch machines) for potentially not a lot more operation? Or perhaps you were planning a "big" yard and a "small" yard? Another question about the yards is their function. What will you be doing there? With your current plan it appears the function of the yards will be (mostly) to deal with locals serving industries. If this is the case how about consolidating the yards into a single more centrally located yard? --- And let me challenge you to move your staging and helix out from behind the wall into the train room perhaps keeping the helix in the lower right corner? I believe you will find having the staging and helix out of view will be very off putting when running trains in those areas. --- Yes, I think now is a good time to be thinking seriously about operations. Start with a list of the kinds of trains you want to be running (through freight, local freight, amtrak), where they come from, where they terminate, what they need to do/what stops will they make. Figure out the number of people who will be operating and that will give you one measure of the maximum number of simultaneous trains. The other measure of simultaneous trains is how many siding are there? I think when you look at all these you'll find your track planning isn't done yet. Keep up the good work! C. Bigwig Bear Creek & South Jackson Railway Co. http://www.bcsjrr.com | ||
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