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 Registered Member #235 Joined: Wed Nov 02 2005, 02:51AMLocation: Antioch, CA Posts: 106 | Joe, So on top of running out of water cars and having the helpers on the wrong side of the hill, you run out of cabooses, too? How often does that happen? Does that mean you have to run a caboose hop and then where from? Paul [ Edited Mon Nov 13 2006, 05:12PM ] | ||
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| JeffShultz |
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  Registered Member #6 Joined: Wed Dec 08 2004, 09:30PMLocation: Stayton, OR Posts: 582 | We didn't run out of cabooses - just the opposite. Joe now has enough cabeese that the spares no longer fit on the caboose track... which proved to be a minor problem during the second trick. But I suspect that Joe will show that in more detail... Jeff Shultz Willamette & Pacific - Oregon Electric Branch W&P RR Photo Gallery | ||
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   Registered Member #3 Joined: Wed Dec 08 2004, 09:01PMLocation: Portland, OR Posts: 2112 | With water cars and helpers, now the Siskiyou Line East can leave town! (Click image to get a larger version) Now that helper engineer Joe Brugger (far right in the blue flannel shirt) has arrived with the helpers, it's time to add the helpers in mid-train. Once that chore is done, then the train can pull out of town! You can see track 1 still has the Seagull East all set to go, track 2 (was the Siskiyou Line West) is now empty, and track 3 has the Oakland Turn. [ Edited Mon Nov 13 2006, 11:23PM ] Joe Fugate http://siskiyou-railfan.net - 200,000 hits and counting!  In video ... | ||
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| Registered Member #3 Joined: Wed Dec 08 2004, 09:01PMLocation: Portland, OR Posts: 2112 | Maneuvering the Siskiyou Line East to add in the helpers (Click image to get a larger version) First trick helper engineer Joe Brugger (extreme left foreground with throttle) maneuvers his helper set to drop its water cars in this scene, while conductor Mike Baynes uses a manual uncoupling pick to cut the cars lose from the locos. In the distance, SLE engineer Jim Moomaw looks on. Here's what has just happened: 1. The helpers got permission from the yardmaster to enter the yard. 2. The helpers pulled into the runaround track with the water cars in tow, and cleared the main. 3. The Siskiyou Line East pulled forward on the main and cut the train in two where the helpers need to go. 4. The helpers dropped the water cars on the runaround track, then pulled forward to couple onto the rear half of the Siskiyou Line East. Next, here's what will happen: 5. Then the helpers will couple the rear half of the SLE with the front half, putting the train back together with the helpers cut in at their proper location. 6. The SLE will highball out of town, since they already have their track warrant giving them clearance all the way to Eugene! (Highball at the Siskiyou Line speed limit of 25 mph, that is).  I say front half and rear half of the train -- actually the helpers get cut in about two thirds of the way back, according to SP practice -- but you get the idea.  Like I said, there's not much else happening in Roseburg right now, so it's time to check back with Roseburg yardmaster Jordan Dobson and see if he has come up with something to do!  [ Edited Wed Nov 15 2006, 11:41PM ] Joe Fugate http://siskiyou-railfan.net - 200,000 hits and counting! In video ... | ||
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| KnuT |
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| Registered Member #27 Joined: Thu Dec 09 2004, 11:00AMLocation: Halden, Norway Posts: 208 | Joe, Did the SLE forget the water cars? Or did the head end engines pick those up from the runaround track before the train pulled forward move 3)? BTW, I really like your reports from the opsessions, especially now you are focusing on jobs. I think I can learn a lot from this. And I like the big pictures, even though I have to scroll a bit on my 17" CRT monitor. [ Edited Tue Nov 14 2006, 05:39AM ] regards KnuT see my blog on The Peavine and Santa Fe: | ||
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| fognozz |
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 Registered Member #544 Joined: Fri Nov 03 2006, 02:53PMPosts: 37 | Jeff- "Cabeese". LOL! So would it be a caboose track or a cabeese track, since it can hold more than one caboose?  Thanks for the giggle! Arthur | ||
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| Registered Member #3 Joined: Wed Dec 08 2004, 09:01PMLocation: Portland, OR Posts: 2112 | KnuT wrote ... Joe, Did the SLE forget the water cars? Or did the head end engines pick those up from the runaround track before the train pulled forward move 3)? BTW, I really like your reports from the opsessions, especially now you are focusing on jobs. I think I can learn a lot from this. And I like the big pictures, even though I have to scroll a bit on my 17" CRT monitor. Knut: I messed up earlier in stating there were no water cars in Roseburg at the beginning of the session. There were in fact two water cars there already and the SLE grabbed the two water cars while waiting for the helpers, so the helpers brought *two more* water cars to Roseburg. I went back and edited my earlier posts to correct this boo-boo. You may need to click refresh to get the latest version since your browser may be caching my earlier post still.  Joe Fugate http://siskiyou-railfan.net - 200,000 hits and counting! In video ... | ||
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| Registered Member #3 Joined: Wed Dec 08 2004, 09:01PMLocation: Portland, OR Posts: 2112 | Jordan gets some action ... from the Coos Bay Hauler East (Click image to view a larger version) Conductor Cam Cotrill (center, plaid shirt) and first-time rookie engineer Dan Sheets (right in the black shirt) bring the Coos Bay Hauler East into town on the main, now that the Siskiyou Line East has just left town. They tell Jordan they have a car for him (one car!) and it's on the back of their train. Always the dilligent yardmaster, Jordan also gives them a Eugene bound car from the Seagull East since the goal here, after all, is to get Eugene-bound cars to Eugene as fast as possible. The Hauler's leaving town right away, but the Seagull East won't leave town for a few more fast hours. Jordan only swaps car-for-car so as to not exceed the Coos Bay Hauler East's tonnage limits since it can currently just get over Rice Hill with its original car count plus two water cars and not need helpers. Otherwise, they would have to wait for the Siskiyou Line East to get over the hill and the helper engineer Joe Brugger to bring his helpers back down the hill. And there's going to be traffic coming out of Eugene soon, too -- and one helper loco set will only stretch so far! [ Edited Wed Nov 15 2006, 11:41PM ] Joe Fugate http://siskiyou-railfan.net - 200,000 hits and counting! In video ... | ||
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| Registered Member #3 Joined: Wed Dec 08 2004, 09:01PMLocation: Portland, OR Posts: 2112 | Yardmaster Jordan pulls the car from the Hauler (Click image to view larger version) Jordan Dobson had the Hauler stop just to the left (in this photo) past the Roseburg west yard switch, then he took the yard switcher out, coupled onto the end of the train, cut the last car and caboose off, then ran back down into the yard and dropped the car. In this photo Jordan's moving to track 1 to grab a car off the end of the Seagull East and tack it on the Coos Bay Hauler East since it's also headed to Eugene like the Seagull East, and that's one more car that will get to its destination sooner. Jordan had inteded to pull the box car just to the right of the gray covered hopper, but upon checking the car cards closer he found the boxcar was mis-classified and instead needed to go to the Roseburg Veneer plant industry spur just to the right out of the picture (oops!  ) Joe Fugate http://siskiyou-railfan.net - 200,000 hits and counting! In video ... | ||
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| Registered Member #3 Joined: Wed Dec 08 2004, 09:01PMLocation: Portland, OR Posts: 2112 | Jordan swaps car-for-car on the Hauler East (Click image to view larger version) Since the boxcar on the end of the Seagull East string of cars actually needed to go to the Roseburg Veneer plant, Jordan grabbed two cars off the end of the Seagull East -- the gray covered hopper *and* the misclassified boxcar -- and tacked the hopper onto the end of the Hauler, then put the misclassified boxcar (in front of the caboose now) back into the yard. Then Jordan coupled the caboose back up to the Hauler and sent them on down the main to get their water cars, get their track warrant from dispatch, and to leave town headed east. Meanwhile, Jordan ran his loco around the misclassified boxcar and spotted it at the Roseburg Veneer plant spur, just to the right of the picture. [ Edited Thu Nov 16 2006, 12:04AM ] Joe Fugate http://siskiyou-railfan.net - 200,000 hits and counting! In video ... | ||
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